tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post5453070393638728959..comments2023-10-20T06:41:31.943-07:00Comments on Visits to Candyland: Head covering and Catholic womenElena LaVictoirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18108910015959872763noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-66792128090157712312008-03-05T15:48:00.000-08:002008-03-05T15:48:00.000-08:00Kelly, I really felt the same way. My church is n...Kelly, <BR/>I really felt the same way. My church is not a chapel veil kinda place. I am the only one who wears one.<BR/><BR/>I thought the same thing - wondered if people would think I was putting on airs, holier than thou, etc. I even talked myself into the thought that I was actually performing an act of charity by NOT covering my head (saving them from gossip, etc! I'm helping them avoid the occasion of sin! LOL)<BR/><BR/>For a while after last Easter I wore a hat, until the kids stomped on it with muddy feet in the van.<BR/><BR/>Now I wear a veil to church. My first duty is not what others might think of me, or whether I feel they will be turned off by it, but rather, my first duty is obedience to God and I feel very strongly that I must cover my head in the presence of the Tabernacle. What other people think of me is their problem.<BR/><BR/>Of course, after giving myself that pep talk, I wore my chapel veil secretly thinking I'd bring a mantilla renaissance to my church, and suddenly everyone would start wearing them. Didn't happen.<BR/><BR/>Instead, I got a visiting priest mock the two nuns and myself who wore veils in church. Oh well. Not my problem.Milehimama @ Mama Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04755353355022539817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-29359108568211556002008-03-05T10:44:00.000-08:002008-03-05T10:44:00.000-08:00Kelly, You said:Perplexity, we would say that the ...Kelly, <BR/><BR/>You said:<BR/><BR/>Perplexity, we would say that the many interpretations of Scripture is an indicator of why we are supposed to have the Church to guide us. It is recreating the wheel to have every person study and interpret for himself. Paul himself advised Timothy to hold fast to the traditions which he had been taught.<BR/><BR/>And, I agree, to a degree. That was kind of what I was getting at. I can't expect everyone to remember everything I've posted in the past. But, in other discussions, I've said that I believed the reason for the Church and Priests and Scholars, etc. was, at least in part, so that every person wasn't interpreting the bible in their own way. <BR/><BR/>My attempts at ironic rhetoric only comes off if you're in my brain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-48476718823547550652008-03-05T10:20:00.000-08:002008-03-05T10:20:00.000-08:00I would really like to wear a head covering to Mas...I would really like to wear a head covering to Mass, but I do not. At this point, too many people in my parish would see it in a negative light. I think that I have a greater chance of success in getting people to listen to my point of view, if they don't have me written down as "holier-then-thou" or something similar.<BR/><BR/>I have hope that for the next generation, people won't have the same stereotypes, and women will be free to wear or not wear a veil as they feel called, and not be opening a big ol' fat can of worms. <BR/><BR/>I do often wear a veil when I go to Adoration, though, because only the religious fanatics show up for that anyway. ;)<BR/><BR/>Perplexity, we would say that the many interpretations of Scripture is an indicator of why we are supposed to have the Church to guide us. It is recreating the wheel to have every person study and interpret for himself. Paul himself advised Timothy to hold fast to the traditions which he had been taught.Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16120027058653022897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-8615191906175664462008-03-05T09:49:00.000-08:002008-03-05T09:49:00.000-08:00Swylv, if it isn't painfully obvious yet, it shoul...Swylv, if it isn't painfully obvious yet, it should be by now; Candy never says what "she" does and others are free to make their own choice. Candy says that what she does is correct and the only way to do it. <BR/><BR/>One of Candy's greatest faults is her lack of insight or acceptance of other people and their beliefs. Even other Christians. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I wonder why it is that so many different people come to so many different conclusions about what the bible means. Not only about what it says but what it means. (That was rhetorical for those that aren't used to my comments.)<BR/><BR/>There are so many interpretations and it seems those that want to argue do so at every given chance. Rather than seeing how much is agreed upon and focusing on that, some choose instead to focus on differences. Even differences in opinion. To me, that is a very sad commentary.<BR/><BR/>It also seems very "nit picky". Whether one covers or not seems so irrelevant to other things such as charity, love, honor and respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-21372451398137331022008-03-05T08:41:00.000-08:002008-03-05T08:41:00.000-08:00faithful catholic, here is an interesting article ...faithful catholic, here is an interesting article I found about head coverings. You can read it and see what you think. It was kind of long and I didn't finish it but it was interesting.<BR/><BR/>http://www.lumengentleman.com/content.asp?id=220Sophia's Virtuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06085105195614461708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-88251197623739966432008-03-04T19:56:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:56:00.000-08:00As a Believer who has embraced her Hebrew roots, I...As a Believer who has embraced her Hebrew roots, I took offense at the wording in some of C.B.'s latest head covering adventure.<BR/><BR/>Maybe she should have said this is why I don't do such and such but you are free to search the Scripture yourself.Swylvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12860481722628696739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-6385608111395497202008-03-04T19:36:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:36:00.000-08:00I was somewhat amused by Candy's post on headcover...I was somewhat amused by Candy's post on headcoverings. I even clicked on her link to her "study" on 1 Corinthians 11 from back in August and this statement from her study jumped out at me, "Without an heirarchy, there'd be anarchy - chaos." I had to wonder what she meant by that! Does she know of what she speaks?<BR/><BR/>I've read many different posts and opinions on wearing a head covering at Mass in many different places. There seems to be no end of contention about the issue. I remember the days when EVERY female wore a mantila, prayer veil, chapel veil or hat of some sort at Mass. I also remember my mother putting a tissue on my head and sticking it to my hair with an extra bobby pin whenever I forgot my chapel veil. Oh, I really didn't like that! Surely some of you also remember those days, or at least the days when every female had a new Easter hat for Mass on Easter Sunday. Yes, milehimama, LADIES always wore hats when out and about until at least the mid-60's as I recall. Maybe later than that even. But, of course when the seventies rolled in and women decided they needed to be more like men, the veil went the way of the Sunday best dress, stockings, heels and pearls. Can you imagine a young woman walking into Mass in jeans, a tee shirt, flip flops and a mantila? Anybody have an opinion on exactly what happened? I've usually chalked it up to the "spirit" of Vatican II but, that may be too simplistic. I've not found a definitive explanation. If you know of a source that explains the current understanding of the teaching on head covering, I'd be interested to know where I might find it.ann nonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06426622861196955113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-12615803531925750582008-03-04T19:30:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:30:00.000-08:00OH, how I would love to attend a Latin Mass.. my m...OH, how I would love to attend a Latin Mass.. my mom grew up with the Latin Mass and all the women and girls wearing the head covering.. she said it was just something amazing to behold.... sadly the only church that has a Latin Mass is close to a three hour drive for me.. but someday I will go... this is really important to me.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038639159416547700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-16287854034736335232008-03-04T19:15:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:15:00.000-08:00Attending the Latin Mass as we do you'll find most...Attending the Latin Mass as we do you'll find most (though not all) women covering their head with something. The head covering is usually used only while inside the sanctuary (or any place the Blessed Sacrament is kept) and for Mass but I've known of other groups of catholic women that wear them at all times. It's a beautiful custom, very lovely indeed. <BR/><BR/>Milehimama, that is a very good point you make! I've never thought of it that way.Sophia's Virtuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06085105195614461708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-17062831774487068332008-03-04T19:04:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:04:00.000-08:00I was wondering the exact same thing!! I honestly ...I was wondering the exact same thing!! I honestly don't think Candy does much research and what she does is pick and choose what she will say to suit her needs.<BR/>I myself don't wear a head cover but know many women who do, if I ever felt called to wear one.. I would prayerfully discern it and do what I felt the Holy Spirit was calling me to do.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038639159416547700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-853207333094285361.post-4403459381570618862008-03-04T18:11:00.000-08:002008-03-04T18:11:00.000-08:00I read that column at Candy's and two questions sp...I read that column at Candy's and two questions sprang to mind:<BR/>Has she actually READ what St. Paul had to say about the veil?<BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>If it is no longer the custom, the custom has only come about in the last 50 years or so. Wouldn't that make NOT covering your head a tradition of men? Only harlots, etc. ran around bareheaded everywhere - even in relatively modern times ladies wore hats when out and about!Milehimama @ Mama Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04755353355022539817noreply@blogger.com