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Saturday, August 18, 2007

A dilemma

Now you might have noticed that it has been rather quiet around here. Candy has blogged only on homeschooling and homemaking issues, two topics that I think she handles very well. I have no beef with her on either of those and I wish her much success on her blog if that is the direction she continues to go in.

My only gripe with her ever was the Catholic bashing with no room for input or correction for Catholics. That's it. As long as she stays away from that topic, I really have nothing to blog or say over here.


Most of you might remember Amy who blogs at trainachild over on blogger. She is a big Candy supporter and anti-Catholic. She and I had a discussion/disagreement a few months ago. She has an article up on her blog right now that is a deliberate attempt to discount many of the arguments that I and others have used in the past.

Ordinarily, I would confront her. Amy, like Candy doesn't allow confrontational comments on her blog - so it's basically a waste of time to do it.

I could blog about it here. However, Amy's blog is a personal blog. It gets very little traffic, and highlighting it just gives it more attention than it really deserves.

I'm willing to let it go unless someone is just aching to discuss these things and needs a place to vent. So what say you Visits to Candyland readers?


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On second thought, I find it troubling that she has hung on this bitterness for weeks and weeks. I feel more comfortable just letting it drop.

5 comments:

motherofmany said...

Hey, don't dish it out if you can't take it. Even after we ended our 'discussion' you continued to come to my blog and read what I had posted, leaving your comments which I did not read, until I happened on a link through a search engine to your Candland blog, and found that you were using this page not just to list your comments to Candy (which was your defense when I said it was wrong to set up a site just to tear someone else apart) but also to me. So there were all those comments I had deleted, along with another post on your catholic year page aimed at a woman where you blaringly use the tactics you accuse her of in the very same sentence!

Your attempt to back-peddle is amusing, though. Maybe you need better definitions of these terms.

And now you want me to leave you alone. Isn't that what Candy has been asking you to do for how long? Wasn't that the message I was conveying when I ended the discussion, saying I wanted nothing to do with your blog, and refused to read your comments? Did I hit a nerve? Why the sudden change?

Elena said...

Amy, the last time you were even thought of was July 18. A month ago. You let these things stir in your heart for a month. A month.


I have basically left Candy alone. Check the dates on this blog and you'll see that I have not posted any responses for a few weeks. As long as she doesn't Catholic bash, or if she allows Catholics to defend her comments, I'll leave it alone.

As for your blog, you seem willing to let other Catholics answer your articles and that's fine with me.

But I can and will defend myself. Count on it.

Elena said...

For the churning of milk produces butter, And pressing the nose brings forth blood; So the churning of anger produces strife

motherofmany said...

You may not have left any comments since July 18th, but you forget that your ISP fingerprint gives you away! I only recently found out about all the posting you did about me here and also hypocritical attacks of others. It has not been stirring in my heart, but as you said, I will defend myself. You can count on that.

Why is my questioning of your argument any different than your questioning Candy's arguments? You are only leaving her alone because you have nothing else to attack. You make it sound as though you single-handedly changed the tone of her page. Most bloggers that I read don't follow a posting pattern, such as "heretical Friday" so that posts couldn't be anticipated about any given subject. We both know she will post pertinent information as it arises about the Catholic Church as a matter of studying Bible prophesy.

Yes, I allow other Catholics to address my posts because they know how to be respectful. Everywhere I go I see the same case against you in that respect. You are in the search engines, all right, but is that what you wanted to be know for? Are you reduced to citing low numbers as a reason not to listen to someone? That is part of the dark tone that I mentioned bothering me about your blog. You seemingly cannot write theology without being either angry or gloating. There is a middle, ground for pondering. You may get a lot of traffic, but how many of them take you seriously? There are catholic blogs that I read, regardless of the differences in doctrine, because they are working it out without being so offensive. My mind is not closed to oposing views, but rather to the threatening tone of the presentation of them.

"A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike." Proverbs 27:15

Elena said...

You may not have left any comments since July 18th, but you forget that your ISP fingerprint gives you away!

So? I've popped through and left. Big deal. You have tons of free time or not much traffic if you comb through your stats looking for my lil ole ISP!



Why is my questioning of your argument any different than your questioning Candy's arguments?

Well for one, your comments are appearing on this blog are they not? If I were acting like Candy, or you for that matter, they would just disappear and I would claim to not even have read them.



You are only leaving her alone because you have nothing else to attack.


BINGO! I am actually for homeschooling, homemaking etc. I think she does a fine job with those things. In fact, if she leaves the Catholic bashing alone, I'll even take down my boycott.


You make it sound as though you single-handedly changed the tone of her page.

I've said no such thing.


Most bloggers that I read don't follow a posting pattern, such as "heretical Friday" so that posts couldn't be anticipated about any given subject.

Ever hear of Menu Monday? Tackle it Tuesday? Works for me Wednesday? Friday Feast?



We both know she will post pertinent information as it arises about the Catholic Church as a matter of studying Bible prophesy.


I don't predict the future. I have no idea what anyone will post at any time. I can predict however, that as long as the Catholic Bashing remains in check I will not have anything to write on this blog... unless it's to start focusing on YOUR blog.


Yes, I allow other Catholics to address my posts because they know how to be respectful. Everywhere I go I see the same case against you in that respect.


yea, that's the case from extreme right-wing Evangelicals Protestants. Left wing liberals on the other hand tell me that I don't have enough fun and that I'm too fat. I tend to do best with reasonable moderates.


You are in the search engines, all right, but is that what you wanted to be know for?

works for me.


Are you reduced to citing low numbers as a reason not to listen to someone?


Please quote me correctly Amy. I said low numbers might not be a reason to link to you and respond. Obviously I decided to anyway. Low numbers has nothing to do with Whether or not I read a blog. there are a lot of gems out there that haven't found their audience yet.

That is part of the dark tone that I mentioned bothering me about your blog. You seemingly cannot write theology without being either angry or gloating.

Maybe it's because this blog was set up to defend against vicious attacks against my faith! That sort of sets the theme and tone don't you think?



There is a middle, ground for pondering. You may get a lot of traffic, but how many of them take you seriously?

Interestingly, this blog has gotten more hits in its first year of existence than my main blog in its first year. Some days it got more hits than My Domestic Church! It's serving a purpose.


There are catholic blogs that I read, regardless of the differences in doctrine, because they are working it out without being so offensive.

It depends on who they are discussing with. Frankly you and Candy are unreasonable in the way you approach Catholic discussion and handle comments. It takes two to tango as it were.



My mind is not closed to oposing views, but rather to the threatening tone of the presentation of them.


Oh please Amy. In our first discussion it was you who decided to become adversarial.


Job 27:4
My lips certainly will not speak unjustly, Nor will my tongue mutter deceit