Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Comment to Kim

Kim writes:
I just read through that anti-Candy blog by Elena and the others... it was truly sickening. I could not even leave a comment to their filth. I can't believe how they toss around scriptures about peace and love on a blog that is literally bashing a person and what they believe truth is.

Well Kim, that is sort of how I feel when I read the posts Candy writes about Catholicism - truly sickened. I too cannot leave a comment on her filth... no really, I literally cannot leave a comment because Candy will not allow it! But this last sentence really took the cake, because the whole point of the Tom Petty (an unlikely voice of the Envangelical Christian cause don't you think?)was to bash me for what I believe the truth is! So you can't have it both ways Kim.

I am truly sorry Candy, I guess the only light is that you are being persecuted for His name sake!

This is the other baffling part. Candy acts like she is playing defense. She is not. She is playing offense. She is the persecutor not the persecuted. This latest volley was her serve.

I just think you need to keep your chronology straight.

One woman named Angie said "when you have a woman who fills her mind with anti-catholic bigotry..."blah blah and on and on about you this Angie's response to that is "you turn the other cheek on something like that and there is no telling the damage that will be done" Well if that really is how those ladies feel then they don't know Jesus at all.

This would be the same Jesus who turned over the tables in the temple right? Perhaps you are familiar with this quote from Dorothy Sayer:

"I believe it to be a great mistake to present Christianity as something charming and popular with no offense in it....We cannot blink at the fact that gentle Jesus meek and mild was so stiff in his opinions and so inflammatory in his language that he was thrown out of church, stoned, hunted from place to place, and finally gibbeted as a firebrand and a public danger. Whatever his peace was, it was not the peace of an amiable indifference."
. I am praying that even if they can't let go of their "catholic vendetta"
I will happily let this "catholic vendetta" go. In fact I closed this blog down last summer when Candy ceased persecuting the Catholic church. If she lets it go, I most certainly will be glad to.

then they can truly begin to understand Jesus and having a true a personal relationship with Him, one that changes you so greatly that you are no longer that person that does ugly things.
Um... that presupposes that Catholics (in general) and me (in particular) do not already have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ or have not been changed by him. I can tell you that 20 years ago there is no way I would have cared much about what someone like Candy said about my Catholic faith. But I had a re-conversion experience that put my faith on fire and a very personal experience that proved to me that indeed Jesus loves me.

They say on their blog that they are not bashing or name calling just making a justified response to something "anti-catholic". But WE do not have to defend what is God given,

I can think of a few first century Christian martyrs that might disagree with that!

"vengeance is mine says the Lord, I shall repay" that being said I don't peruse the internet for "anti-christian" people/media/blogs/propoganda and then make blogs in response to them.

Just for the sake of historical accuracy, I wasn't perusing the net for an anti-Catholic blog when I found Candy's. I thought I had found a homeschooling blog as it was linked to a homeschool site. I didn't search her out, I was lured there.

I will not be visiting their blog again.
We'll see

All I can do is pray for them that Jesus' love and kindness will overwhelm them and they will come to repentance.

I come to repentance all the time Kim. But I have no reason to repent of the good work that comes from this blog. Just getting Kelly on as co-blogger and her fine articles was definitely worth any petty persecutions that come from the general direction.

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Tracy said...

Thank you again for speaking the truth Elena.
Blessings to you.

Maggii said...

yes, thank you...I just can't see how anyone can feel this site is vile and filthy and yet not feel Candy's is ...or sites like Jesus Is Lord?? I mean really the stuff over there and the stuff
Candy says about Catholics and Catholicism are downright disgusting! but WE are the vile filthy ones??? yeah ok....

angie said...

I am sorry, but WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE READING? Where are they getting the impression that there is hate and filth being spewed on this site? When I read that stuff on my computer screen, the confused look on my face must be hilarious- I think I'm going to have a mirror ready next time I sit down to read the "next chapter." LOL

Another thing I just don't get, and maybe someone can help me understand. Why do some people have an obsession with trying to prove that the Catholic Church is this evil institution? Where is that kind of activity going to get them in life? I can't imagine being a happy person and then spending huge amounts of time reading negative propoganda and spreading it to the masses. I'm just not understanding this at all, and I have really tried to logically think it through.

Perplexity said...

What site did she read? Certainly not this one. There is nothing about this site that jives with what she rambled on and on about.

I have always been amazed how people see what they want to see instead of what is right in front of them. For the most part, I think we are all - as human beings - guilty of doing that from time to time. But, continually refusing to see the same thing, over and over? That is willful. Either these commenters are not reading a thing posted on this blog, or they have already made up their minds about this blog without seeing it for themselves. One guess which is actually occurring. You cannot make something appear out of nowhere, so not looking at what is real is a lot easier than seeing it and trying to turn it into something it is not.

Kelly said...

*shrug* personally I prefer them ranting at Candy's to leaving a drive-by comment here. It is frustrating to formulate a response, only to be met with "I'm never coming back!"

At least if they rant at Candy's, more people decide they just have to see this hate-filled site for themselves. And at least some will see that it isn't what it is represented to be on Candy's site.

KitKat said...

Great Post Elena! I am really not sure why people think that this is an evil hate filled site but Candy using phrases like "whore of babylon", "the Pope is the anti-Christ", and "Elena and her minions" in reference to Catholicism or this website is just fine as long as it is followed with a smiley face or a claim that she loves Roman Catholics. It is a mystery to me.......

Claire Isabel Nelcielo said...

Elena, Kelly and others...

Thank you so much for this blog. As a Catholic and a youth minister (in the "Bible Belt"), I love this site for providing me with great apologetics!

I too have read Candy's blog-and actually came to this blog through hers-and was sickened by the anti-Catholic rehtoric used. I didn't know how to respond, and any time I tried I was blocked. Thank you for standing up for Catholicism and spreading the Truth.

You a blessed with a great gift!

Claire Isabel Nelcielo said...

Dear Elena, Kelly and others...

Thank you for this blog. I found your blog through my own frustration at the anti-Catholic rhetoric communicated through Candy's site.

I am a Catholic and a youth minister (in the "Bible Belt"). Your site has provided me with a great apologetic information. As well as, channeling my frustration with the words on Candy's site into something productive and Truthful.

Thank you for giving the Internet a chance to read the TRUTH.

In Christ,
Claire Isabel Nelcielo