Wednesday, April 9, 2008

Answering More comments from

Keep speaking the truth, Candy. The conviction of the Holy Spirit is more than some people can tolerate, but it is conviction that leads to their anger nonetheless.

This is a logical fallacy that presumes that there is anger at conviction and further, that that could be the only possible reason for being angry!

However in Mark 5 we see that Jesus too became angry
He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts,

Are we not really angry at a stubborn heart that refuses to hear or read our views? A stubborn heart that refuses to look at another side of an issue, even from scripture?

I thought this was interesting so I decided to see what the scriptures have to say about anger.

Proverbs 29:8
Mockers stir up a city, but wise men turn away anger.

This seems to me that a truly wise, and certainly more efficient way of delivering a message would be without ticking out the intended audience!

The scriptures give us other examples of what might stir up anger!

Proverbs 30:33
For as churning the milk produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood, so stirring up anger produces strife."

Proverbs 25:23
As a north wind brings rain, so a sly tongue brings angry looks

Proverbs 29:22
An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins.
Gravatar Good info. I've read this before. Thanks for sharing. We left the Catholic church just 4 years ago, when what we were reading in our bible wasn't lining up to what was being done. That was BEFORE I even read stuff like this!!

So maybe the best way to avoid anger and dissension is to be more careful about how one words things.

# Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

Candy, gotta give you credit for having guts

How much guts does it take to put up an inflammatory controversial post and then refuse to allow dissenting comments?

Thanks for all your thoughtful insights and commitment to teaching and sharing the truth- it is very helpful to me in talking to my grandma (whom I am traveling tonight to see because she is dying) about why I am not catholic and what I believe.

Sigh...probably a good reminder for us to let our children and future grandchildren know how to behave around a death bed. Prayers for this commenters grandma!

Candy, I was wondering if you ever focus on other denominations that are in the wrong? I grew up in the Lutheran church and went there for 30 years before God insisted that I worship elsewhere! Martin Luther was an outstanding, righteous man and was very brave to speak out against the Catholic church and lead the Protestant Reformation, but he would be so ashamed today of the denomination that bears his name. Keep on writing about what God places on your heart!

Yea, spread the love! There are Anglicans, Lutherans, the Orthodox!

My mother grew up Catholic and even started raising us children as Catholic. Then, one day, she started reading the Bible and discovered how errant Catholocism is. Because of her brave departure from the Roman Catholic Church and her becoming saved, the majority of my Roman Catholic family also became saved and left the RC church.

Translation: My mom knew squat about her Catholic faith, so it wasn't too difficult to get her to leave and it wasn't a hard sell for the other uncatechized Catholic-in-name only family members to go with her!

We need to see the truth and sometimes it is hard to face.

Which is why Candy doesn't allow dissenting opinions!

Being saved by grace doesn't mean you stop fighting for equal rights, ending poverty, and helping everyone.

Guess which church does the most charitable work in the world? That's right. The Catholic Church.

I know you are under fire for this post. However, a person must honestly consider their motive for putting you under fire.

How about historical accuracy and doctrinal truth for starters?

What is their purpose for being angry? Where does Anger come from?

See above.

If someone doesn't like your blog they don't need to read it.

How parochial! Should a person who desires to be fully informed, well-rounded and educated only read things they agree with and find tasteful?

I was wondering which Pope Innocent also. My husband is catholic also (He is slowly moving away from - please pray). He doesn't think you are hateful or prejudice.

Fish barrel and all of that.

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faithful catholic said...

Very nicely done!

I was so hoping that someone would post on Candy's response to the Lutheran. That was an interesting response I thought. Wonder if Sue Bee has seen it?

Nancy Parode said...

Another commenter says, "You know what's interesting, not sure of the history or whatnot, but the Catholic church seems to go into places demanding conversion under severe penality, yet most missionaries you read about for the Christian faith go into places as servants, bringing medicine, services."

I guess she's not sure of her history. I don't recall hearing that Mother Teresa forced dying lepers to convert before she cared for them.

Maybe she's got Catholics of today mixed up with Islamic battle commanders of the 13th century?

Blondie said...

I just cringed when I read about the commenter with the dying Catholic grandmother....what is she going to do, take Candy's anti-Catholic garbage and preach to Granny on her deathbed? ugh!

faithful catholic said...


Once on another site there was a woman, a former Catholic, who actually bragged about being so happy that her dying Catholic mother dropped her rosary from her hand AS SHE WAS DYING, and chasing the priest who'd come to annoint her out of her hospital room! Talk about cringing! I was mortified.

Can you just imagine your former Catholic daughter at your bedside trying to convert you as you lay dying?

Blondie said...

FC, that is unbelievable. How prideful and uncharitable of that woman! I just do NOT understand that mentality.

Perplexity said...

Elena, you said:

How parochial! Should a person who desires to be fully informed, well-rounded and educated only read things they agree with and find tasteful?

I think you hit on something that explains a lot of the recent comments on here regarding history, etc.

When one uses only the sources that support their belief, they are not likely to learn anything. I did a whole long winded comment on Joy's post "Babylon, Dagon, and Catholicism" about this very thing - understanding an opposing viewpoint in order to understand your own, etc.