A record of the comments I make on Candy Brauer's KeepingtheHome.com Blog - just in case!
"There are not over a 100 people in the U.S. that hate the Catholic Church, there are millions however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church which is, of course, quite a different thing." Fulton Sheen
I'm Sophie M. I just posted something about how Catholics do read the Bible and how I read my pocket King James NT nonstop in Basic Training (I'm an Army reservist.) Let's watch it not get posted!
I think VTC is still Candy's biggest problem, because the information here is a threat and threats are what make people fight back. Ignoring things like the link you posted is easy because there is nothing threatening in it; there is nothing to refute her beliefs and proclamations. VTC is nothing but threats to her belief system because it openly discusses Catholicism and is supported with research, information, knowledge and experience.
I really think our site has a ton of differences. We do not concentrate on the perplexities of Catholicism and Protestants. We mostly look and refute claims that are factual, or just flat out make fun of some of her blogs, for example the BR bite. Her husband induction into the hall of fame for inventors. That she is ITU certified. I think too many people view her site and try and keep up with an image she does not sustain herself. We are not hateful people, but do want to shock her and her readers into vesting enough to throw them off their kilter. I am not Catholic, and to be honest, I don't have a lot of religion, but I do respect people's religious beliefs as holy and personal. I don't see the need to tell someone that what they hold so personally is wrong. I mean Catholicism outdates the protestants, and outdates the KJV by almost 1300 years. How do you argue that your religion, further from the actual life of Christ, is more accurate? This is the fundamental flaw in her analysis. I will leave you alone, and allow you to have your intellectual discussion without being drug to the gutter with the likes of me, but you are more than welcome to visit, and as I state I do not edit or delete posts.
In response to the third video, and PLEASE excuse my "almost implied profanity" (I don't mean it that way but it may come across as such) --What the---? What? WHAT????
If you could see my face right now you would see you would see my crinkled-up, confused expression. My oldest came in and asked if something was wrong after seeing the look on my face. What in the world was he talking about? That makes absolutely no sense! 8-p
Oh, I did watch it to the end--he started to say something about the Catholic church's belief that God would not let any false teaching in the church and then backed it up with a lesson on birth control. Maybe it's just me, since I am surely not up on the details of church history, but he didn't seem to be going anywhere. It all sounded like a bunch of babble. And besides, ALL branches of Christianity right now seem divided on the issue of birth control--so how does what he is saying prove anything (whatever point he was trying to make) about the Catholic church? BTW, just to be clarify where I am, we do not believe in bc and do not practice any type of prevention methods of pregnancy. My husband grew up in the Catholic church, my mother-in-law still attends. My hubby and I attend a non-denominational church now just because that is what we prefer, no other reason. We have nothing against the Catholic or Baptist churches we have attended in the past. We love all of Christ's followers regardless of their denomination. Jesus said that the greatest commandment is to love God and then love others. I do believe that this is what Candy is trying to do, but that she is misguided to whom she directs it. And as much as I love Candy and her site, I find I am growing more and more uncomfortable with some of it... Anyway, sorry for the loooooong comment and to get back on subject, I'll end with this:
I think I understand Jessica's confusion over the third video. The whole set up of it reminded me of watching some of the Protestant Evangelists on television. And for some reason I went into the video think it was going to be some sort of ridiculous accusation against the Church instead of a defense.
So I spent most of the video with a confused look on my face, too, waiting for the hammer to drop. It wasn't until the very last second that I realized it wasn't going to. It's a great video, but I think it needs a little more set up, IMHO.
The last speaker is Ray Guarendi. He is a clinical psychologist, a homeschool dad, and a Catholic. He lives in my area and three of his kids graduated with my son at the homeschool graduation mass this past spring! He is also an author, radio show host and motivational speaker.
If you note, whoever submitted this Youtube piece deliberately divides it into two parts; the golf joke is part one and the protection of the church is part two.
Usually when Dr. Ray speeks, he does do a lot of ice breakers and sprinkles humor throughout his talks. I personally enjoy that style, especially when he is addressing a heavy topic or giving a talk to young adults and teens.
To each his own. I think God has a sense of humor.
In 1968, Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae which was the encyclical supporting the church's stand against artificial contraception. He did this against TREMENDOUS pressure from the culture, society and even people in the church. In fact he formed a commission to study the issue of contraception and they supported it! Despite all of this Paul VI issued HV, and from what I understand he suffered personally for it.
Dr. Ray is trying to say this: Back in 1968, no one knew that the pill was an abortifacient. If Paul VI had given artificial contrapception the thumbs up in 1968, it would have become clear years later that he had indeed sanctioned methods that cleary end the life of human babies in the embryotic stage.
But he didn't. Despite everything and everyone telling him otherwise, and despite a personal high cost to his own peace and mental health, Paul VI followed his informed conscience and went the other way.
Scripture tells us that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the church. The church cannot teach error. This is a blaring instance of the church avoiding such erroneous teaching, and that fact was instrumental in bringing folks like Dr. Ray and me back to the Catholic faith.
Ahhhh, I see. I was confused because I thought he was speaking out AGAINST the Catholic church. THAT'S why it all sounded like babble to me and had me confused--especially since it was a cut and paste job! Okay, I get it now... As far as the joke, I like humor also, I just didn't like that particular joke. (I have to like humor because my husband is a walking goldmine of one-liners. I haven't seen anyone beat him yet!) So I should probably watch some of his stuff to understand him...do they show him on any Sky Angel channels?
Last comment and I'm eating my boot! (quick side note; I have been blessed with free time today thanks to some lovely teenage girls helping out, which is why I am able to be reading online so much) I googled him and read some good stuff about him, and checked out his website...see what I get for speaking first without knowing...! In my defense, though, I thought he was speaking out AGAINST Catholicism which is why it made no sense to me at first. Thanks for clearing it up, Elena! And he IS very funny; but I still didn't like that one joke!
Oh Elena you're awfully nice to Chrissy, considering she runs a blog that is cruelly devoted to smashing apart every detail of Candy's life. I would think with all your grandstanding about not bashing Candy, you would discourage garbage like this. Oh who am I kidding? You probably read it every day and laugh your mean spirited little head off. After all she's doing what you wish you could, am I right? Frankly your hypocrisy makes me even more disgusted with this pointless venture than usual. Ugh, I need to go rinse the bad taste out of my mouth.
18 comments:
Well done Elena. I tried to address that post but could not do it. This was AWSOME!!
Excellent Elena (Tracy stands up and claps wildly)!!
I really love the first video. It brought tears to my eyes.
I'm Sophie M. I just posted something about how Catholics do read the Bible and how I read my pocket King James NT nonstop in Basic Training (I'm an Army reservist.) Let's watch it not get posted!
I think VTC is still Candy's biggest problem, because the information here is a threat and threats are what make people fight back. Ignoring things like the link you posted is easy because there is nothing threatening in it; there is nothing to refute her beliefs and proclamations. VTC is nothing but threats to her belief system because it openly discusses Catholicism and is supported with research, information, knowledge and experience.
I knew you guys would come around. I am editing my post about your site right now.
I really think our site has a ton of differences. We do not concentrate on the perplexities of Catholicism and Protestants. We mostly look and refute claims that are factual, or just flat out make fun of some of her blogs, for example the BR bite. Her husband induction into the hall of fame for inventors. That she is ITU certified. I think too many people view her site and try and keep up with an image she does not sustain herself. We are not hateful people, but do want to shock her and her readers into vesting enough to throw them off their kilter. I am not Catholic, and to be honest, I don't have a lot of religion, but I do respect people's religious beliefs as holy and personal. I don't see the need to tell someone that what they hold so personally is wrong. I mean Catholicism outdates the protestants, and outdates the KJV by almost 1300 years. How do you argue that your religion, further from the actual life of Christ, is more accurate? This is the fundamental flaw in her analysis. I will leave you alone, and allow you to have your intellectual discussion without being drug to the gutter with the likes of me, but you are more than welcome to visit, and as I state I do not edit or delete posts.
Chrissy, I appreciate your taking the time to come by. We just have to keep the blog on focus and on topic. I know you understand!
E.
In response to the third video, and PLEASE excuse my "almost implied profanity" (I don't mean it that way but it may come across as such) --What the---? What? WHAT????
If you could see my face right now you would see you would see my crinkled-up, confused expression. My oldest came in and asked if something was wrong after seeing the look on my face.
What in the world was he talking about? That makes absolutely no sense! 8-p
Did you watch it to the end Jessica? After the golf joke?
Oh, I did watch it to the end--he started to say something about the Catholic church's belief that God would not let any false teaching in the church and then backed it up with a lesson on birth control. Maybe it's just me, since I am surely not up on the details of church history, but he didn't seem to be going anywhere. It all sounded like a bunch of babble. And besides, ALL branches of Christianity right now seem divided on the issue of birth control--so how does what he is saying prove anything (whatever point he was trying to make) about the Catholic church?
BTW, just to be clarify where I am, we do not believe in bc and do not practice any type of prevention methods of pregnancy. My husband grew up in the Catholic church, my mother-in-law still attends. My hubby and I attend a non-denominational church now just because that is what we prefer, no other reason. We have nothing against the Catholic or Baptist churches we have attended in the past. We love all of Christ's followers regardless of their denomination. Jesus said that the greatest commandment is to love God and then love others. I do believe that this is what Candy is trying to do, but that she is misguided to whom she directs it. And as much as I love Candy and her site, I find I am growing more and more uncomfortable with some of it...
Anyway, sorry for the loooooong comment and to get back on subject, I'll end with this:
I think the golf joke was in very poor taste!
I think I understand Jessica's confusion over the third video. The whole set up of it reminded me of watching some of the Protestant Evangelists on television. And for some reason I went into the video think it was going to be some sort of ridiculous accusation against the Church instead of a defense.
So I spent most of the video with a confused look on my face, too, waiting for the hammer to drop. It wasn't until the very last second that I realized it wasn't going to. It's a great video, but I think it needs a little more set up, IMHO.
The last speaker is Ray Guarendi. He is a clinical psychologist, a homeschool dad, and a Catholic. He lives in my area and three of his kids graduated with my son at the homeschool graduation mass this past spring! He is also an author, radio show host and motivational speaker.
If you note, whoever submitted this Youtube piece deliberately divides it into two parts; the golf joke is part one and the protection of the church is part two.
Usually when Dr. Ray speeks, he does do a lot of ice breakers and sprinkles humor throughout his talks. I personally enjoy that style, especially when he is addressing a heavy topic or giving a talk to young adults and teens.
To each his own. I think God has a sense of humor.
In 1968, Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae which was the encyclical supporting the church's stand against artificial contraception. He did this against TREMENDOUS pressure from the culture, society and even people in the church. In fact he formed a commission to study the issue of contraception and they supported it! Despite all of this Paul VI issued HV, and from what I understand he suffered personally for it.
Dr. Ray is trying to say this: Back in 1968, no one knew that the pill was an abortifacient. If Paul VI had given artificial contrapception the thumbs up in 1968, it would have become clear years later that he had indeed sanctioned methods that cleary end the life of human babies in the embryotic stage.
But he didn't. Despite everything and everyone telling him otherwise, and despite a personal high cost to his own peace and mental health, Paul VI followed his informed conscience and went the other way.
Scripture tells us that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the church. The church cannot teach error. This is a blaring instance of the church avoiding such erroneous teaching, and that fact was instrumental in bringing folks like Dr. Ray and me back to the Catholic faith.
Ahhhh, I see. I was confused because I thought he was speaking out AGAINST the Catholic church. THAT'S why it all sounded like babble to me and had me confused--especially since it was a cut and paste job! Okay, I get it now...
As far as the joke, I like humor also, I just didn't like that particular joke. (I have to like humor because my husband is a walking goldmine of one-liners. I haven't seen anyone beat him yet!)
So I should probably watch some of his stuff to understand him...do they show him on any Sky Angel channels?
Okay, I just watched it again and now it makes sense. Sorry! You can just delete my confused comments if you want!
Last comment and I'm eating my boot! (quick side note; I have been blessed with free time today thanks to some lovely teenage girls helping out, which is why I am able to be reading online so much)
I googled him and read some good stuff about him, and checked out his website...see what I get for speaking first without knowing...!
In my defense, though, I thought he was speaking out AGAINST Catholicism which is why it made no sense to me at first. Thanks for clearing it up, Elena! And he IS very funny; but I still didn't like that one joke!
Oh Elena you're awfully nice to Chrissy, considering she runs a blog that is cruelly devoted to smashing apart every detail of Candy's life. I would think with all your grandstanding about not bashing Candy, you would discourage garbage like this. Oh who am I kidding? You probably read it every day and laugh your mean spirited little head off. After all she's doing what you wish you could, am I right? Frankly your hypocrisy makes me even more disgusted with this pointless venture than usual. Ugh, I need to go rinse the bad taste out of my mouth.
I try to be nice to everyone Lindsay, even you.
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