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Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Reading the bible and imitating Jesus




So when we read the Bible, we need to read it on two levels at once. We read the Bible in a literal sense as we read any other human literature. But we read it also in a spiritual sense, searching out what the Holy Spirit is trying to tell us through the words. See Catechism 115-119.

We do this in imitation of Jesus, because this is the way He read the scriptures. He referred to Jonah (Mt 12:39) Solomon (Mt 12:42), the temple (Jn 2:19) and the brazne serpent (Jn 3:14) as "signs" that prefigured Him. We see in Luke's gospel, as our Lord comforted the disciples on the road to Emmaus that "beginning with Moses and all the prophets, He interpreted to them what referred to Him in all scriptures" (LK 24:27). After that spiritual reading of the Old Testament, we are told the disciples, hearts burned within them.

What ignited the fire in their hearts? Through the scriptures, Jesus had initiated His disciples into a world that reached beyond their senses. A good teacher, God introduced the unfamiliar in terms of the familiar. Indeed, He had created the familiar with this end in mind, fashioning the persons and institutions that would best prepare us for the coming of Christ in the glories of his kingdom.


Hail, Holy Queen: The Mother of God in the Word of God page 22-23.

Professor Hahn is preparing the reader for the imagery and symbols that he is going to use in coming chapters that prefigure Christ, and also His mother Mary. We are going to see why an understanding of the culture and the times of scripture are so imperative to a correct and holistic approach to the scriptures - pretty exciting stuff!


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State-of-the-Kelly Blogging

Now that we're starting to hit reruns on Candy's blog, I think we've really hit all of the major points that need clearing up about the Catholic faith, from Candy's perspective.

My homeschool year is winding down, and the weather is lovely, so while I still have lots of topics left to write about, I wanted to warn you that I probably won't be posting so fast and furious as before. I'd suggest subscribing to a blog reader service, if you'd like to be notified of new postings.

Now, I'm off to make some blondie's, and take the children out to play. Just in case anyone wanted to accuse me of spending too much time online and neglecting my family! (I've done two loads of laundry and the dishes, too!)


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Mary and the Month of May



During the month of May, I am going to try to given an in depth look from scripture at why Mary holds such a place of honor and esteem in the Catholic church. I am going to be much of the information found in Professor Scott Hahn's book, Hail, Holy Queen: The Mother of God in the Word of God

If you want to follow along, this book is available on Amazon and is reasonably priced. But even if you don't have the book join us anyway for discussion and sharing.




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Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Spewing hate?

When you leave a comment on a blogger blog, sometimes you get notified when someone else comments after you. Today I received such a comment in my email. This is a comment from a blogger who visited my other blog, but I gather she visited here as well.


Candy does stand up against the lies of Catholicism, but she makes a loud, clear statement that she loves Catholics as people. The website I viewed spewed hatred and contempt for "protestants" and I was immediately turned off. I continue to pray for that dear woman.
I almost viewed that site as a hatred for people in general. At the very least when Candy speaks of sola scripture (by God's Word alone), she does so with respect, not hatred for Catholics.
Love the sinner, hate the sin. Sadly, the blog I viewed promoted hating everything.
I have no room for debate in that area either.


It just made me feel... tired.


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Book Reviews and More: Catholic Carnival 170

Book Reviews and More: Catholic Carnival 170





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Saturday, April 26, 2008

OK You Guys- It's Your Turn!

I think Kelly and I are pretty spent after the last couple of weeks, and as Kelly is taking a mini break and I'm up to my eyeballs in work, I think it was a FABULOUS idea to let you the readers share your conversion stories here at VTC! Either leave it in the com box, or e-mail it to me and I'll cut and paste it in.

If you are interested, my own mini re-conversion story is mixed in with this Pre Cana Speech I give every year.

I am looking forward to reading your stories!


Red Neck Woman sent me her very powerful conversion story here.

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Friday, April 25, 2008

My Domestic Church: Keeping Kids Catholic

Remembering that I Do have another blog, here's my latest effort there.

My Domestic Church: Keeping Kids Catholic





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Thursday, April 24, 2008

Catholics and the Second Commandment « Postscripts From The Catholic Spitfire Grill

I love this blog! Redneck woman is on fire and how timely that she tackles the issue of the commandments and idol worship again. See:Catholics and the Second Commandment « Postscripts From The Catholic Spitfire Grill

And someone cue Candy because APPARENTLY SHE DIDN'T GET IT THE FIRST TIME. Catholics DO NOT WORSHIP STATUES.

Thanks!


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We Belong to the Lord: Catholic Carnival 169

We Belong to the Lord: Catholic Carnival 169


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Candy's lies and misrepresentations
with the links correcting them.

1. Catholics worship statues. See also here.
2. Catholics are breaking the ten commandments.
3. Misrepresenting the Catholic and scriptural understanding of mediatrix.
4. Calling the rosary vain repetition and unbiblical. See also here and here
5. Pope titles Blasphemous Vicar, Holy Father
6. Luxurious digs of the Pope.
7. Inferring Catholics are not biblical Christians.



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CNS STORY: No place like home: Papal apartment gets extreme makeover

Sometimes Candy's insipid articles surprise even me. Her latest dig about the Papal Splender was no exception. The Pope actually lives in an apartment and it just had a recent makeover! Here are some excerpts from CNS.

CNS STORY: No place like home: Papal apartment gets extreme makeover: "No place like home: Papal apartment gets extreme makeover

By John Thavis
Catholic News Service


The renovation, the workman related, was long overdue. The architects said they were surprised at the poor state of the apartment.

For one thing, the electrical system was not up to code. Some rooms still used old 125-volt electrical outlets, which were phased out years ago in Italy in favor of 220 volts. The water pipes were encrusted with rust and lime, and the heating system was approximate at best.

Above the false ceiling, workers discovered big drums placed strategically to catch the leaks from the roof; some were nearly full of water.

The makeover included renovation of the medical studio, which is said to include emergency surgery and dentistry equipment. The papal bedroom, situated at the corner of the building, was completely redone, and most of the rooms were freshly wallpapered.

The new kitchen was reportedly outfitted by a German company, with state-of-the-art ovens, ranges and other appliances.

Those who frequented the papal apartment under Pope John Paul II have no doubt that the place needed an overhaul. Polish film director Krzysztof Zanussi, a friend of the late pope, once said he was astonished at the gloominess of the place, with its outmoded furnishings and lack of lighting.

"Everything was in semidarkness, somber and without inspiration. The chairs were like the ones my aunt had in the suburbs of Warsaw," Zanussi said. "It was not a place that made one feel good."

The papal apartment wraps around two sides of the Apostolic Palace and is accessed by a doorway that opens onto a historic loggia decorated with frescoes. The layout includes a vestibule, the library, a small studio for the papal secretary and the pope's private studio, from which he blesses the crowd every Sunday.

The other rooms include the pope's bedroom, the medical studio, his private chapel, a small living room, a dining room and kitchen.

The papal apartment didn't always have a bird's-eye view of St. Peter's Square and the city of Rome. In fact, it was only in the late 1300s that popes established their permanent residence at the Vatican.

The masterfully decorated apartments of Renaissance pontiffs like the Borgia pope, Alexander VI, are now part of the Vatican museums. The most famous papal apartment was that of Pope Julius II, who had rooms decorated with a cycle of frescoes by Italian artist Raphael Sanzio.

It was Pope Pius X who transferred his apartment to the top floor of the Apostolic Palace in 1903. In 1964, Pope Paul VI completely remodeled the papal residence, and Pope John Paul made his own changes early in his papacy.

In the late 1930s, the huge attic above the apartment was remodeled to make a series of mini-apartments that open to the inner courtyard. They house members of the pope's household staff, and one is said to have been refitted as a guest quarters for Pope Benedict's brother, Msgr. Georg Ratzinger.



Looks like living in a museum/office building to me.






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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Why Be Catholic: An Exercise for Evangelicals

Why Be Catholic: An Exercise for Evangelicals: "* By Jim Akin.

  • If sola Scriptura were God’s plan for how people should form their theology, then it would be something the average Christian could feasily implement. Otherwise sola Scriptura would simply be something for the Christian elite, the Christian illuminati, and it should not be used by the common masses, who would have no hope of putting it into practice. They should not try to implement sola Scriptura, for they would certainly go wrong, but instead should listen only to the sola Scriptura elite for their information about what the "Bible only" says.

  • Unfortunately, sola Scriptura presupposes or assumes a number of things. If it is to be used by the average Christian in world then some basic requirements have to be met:

  • * Unfortunately, sola Scriptura presupposes or assumes a number of things. If it is to be used by the average Christian in world then some basic requirements have to be met:
  • The existence of the printing press: Without this, there is no way one can make enough Bibles for people to do the kind of in-depth study needed to form theology.
  • The universal distribution of Bibles: Merely having one’s hands on a Bible for a short time does not give time for adequate study, reflection, and testing of ideas. One needs a personal copy of the Bible. In practice, this means that there must be a lot of free cash in circulation, for no printer is going to take 10,000 chickens for an order of 1,000 Bibles.
  • Universal literacy: Merely hearing Scripture read is not enough to do the detailed reading and re-reading and word studies one needs to be a competent exegete. One must be able to read for oneself, because it people do not have access to someone to spend their time reading the Bible to outloud and looking up passages for them whenever they want a Bible study.
  • Easy universal possession/access to scholarly support materials: Without commentaries, language tools, etc., any attempt to do serious theology is going to go hopelessly off course. So if the average Christian in world history is going to do serious theology, he must either own or have easy access to good scholarly support materials.
  • Universal possession of adequate leisure time for study: It does no good to have all the tools for Bible study if one must spend all one’s time working in the fields trying to eek out a starvation diet for oneself and one’s family. One must have sufficient leisure time to do serious, in-depth Bible study.
  • Universal nutrition: Though it isn’t pleasant to think about, people’s brains just don’t work right if they aren’t nourished properly. Children who are malnourished grow up to have all kinds of cognitive problems. If you want people to think right, you have to feed them right. And so if you want the average Christian to be able to figure out whether we should still have tongues today or whether we should expect a pre-tribulational rapture (matters Scripture certainly is not indifferent on), then you have to get the average Christian adequate nutrition.
  • Universal education in critical thinking skills: Not only do you have to feed people, you also have to train them to recognize good arguments from bad, to spot logical fallacies, to weigh evidence, and to test propositions from multiple points of view. All of this means that, in order to responsibly do theology, the average Christian would have to have a solid training in critical thinking skills before he could be turned loose on Scripture.



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    Converted ex Catholic #4 - and my theory is still standing.

    This one was actually a piece of cake and easily proved my theory about the uncatechized leaving.



    I always questioned the traditions of the catholic church from the very
    beginning since my parents forced me to memorize prayers such as "Hail
    Mary" "Apostles Creed" and the "Act of Contrition".  Then comes the
    memorization of catecism (sic)in which I dreaded memorizing things such as the
    following never made any sense to me: transsubstansiation, (sic) confirmation,
    penance, veneration of icons, praying for the dead, the rosary.  There was
    my ultimate question of the catholic church:  Why does "bible study" stop after
    confirmation.


    So with a jr. high level education of the faith, at the age of 13-15, this is supposed to be our example of a well catechized Catholic drawn out of the church because they found the truth? Doesn't quite do it for me.

    We know one thing for certain, Candy is reading this blog and for a change, we have her reacting to OUR posts, instead of the other way around.

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    Rerun post - How not to Witness to Catholic Christians

    Since Candy is repeating herself, I guess we can too. This is a repost of something I did last fall and last summer!

    Now Candy writes: "That's part of my calling: to spread the Gospel to the lost, including and especially to the Romans Catholics."


    So the least I can do is help her out.

    1. Don't use terms like "whore of Babylon" or "come out of her." "Papist is a word you should probably retire too. First of all, it tips your hand. When you use those buzz words, we catechized Catholics then know EXACTLY where you are coming from and that gives us the advantage.

    2. Don't link to sites like this or this. Any catechized Catholic who has ever been challenged in his/her faith has seen these and they don't come across as compelling or persuasive. They come off as being ridiculous and melodramatic.

    3. Don't dump all of your problems with Catholicism out there at one time. Yea, we know you have problems with Mary, and the priesthood, and the Eucharist, and purgatory and the saints. However, dumping it all out there at once is overwhelming for the novice and time consuming for the experienced. A much better approach is to take one objection at a time and deal with it.

    4. Don't say something like, "If you would only read the bible for yourself, your eyes would be opened!!" First of all, that assumes that we have not read the bible for ourselves. For many Catholics, it is reading the scriptures that has kept us in the Catholic Church. Many of the great converts to Catholicism, have been scripture scholars. Secondly, it's not a reading thing; it's a paradigm shift. Catholics can read John chapter 6 and see the formation of the Eucharist, and many Protestants don't see that at all, even if we're reading the same translation and the same words. It's the reader's paradigm that guides the interpretation, not the reader's reading comprehension skills.

    5. Don't expect the first answer to your objections to be totally satisfactory. For examples there are libraries full of books on Mary, The Blessed Mother. It's very difficult to boil all of that down into one page or paragraph that will be totally understandable and acceptable. Which leads me to my last point...

    6. Expect to dialogue for a while. Nothing is more frustrating than spending time answering objections to Catholicism, posting them or sending them in, and then getting a reply like, "This isn't up for debate," or "I'm done with you!" The Reformation is over 500 years old. You're not going to solve it in five hours of 500 words or less.

    and as a bonus tip! Lots of times during debates I get comments like, "Well, it's not very Christian for both of you to go back and forth like that. If that's Christianity, then count me out!"

    My response to that is, "we'll miss you!!"

    Because discussion and debate are very much a part of Christian history and tradition. Be sure to read the introduction of Dave Armstrong's new e-book- Bible Conversations!

    The word dialogue appears in the Bible. The Greek dialegomai occurs 13 times in the New Testament, and refers to reason, rational argument, discussion, discourse, debate, dispute and so forth. Particularly, we often see it applied to the Apostle Paul as he reasoned and argued with Jews in the synagogues (Acts 17:2,17, 18:4,19, 19:8) and Greeks and other Gentiles in the marketplaces and academies of the time, where the exchange of ideas took place (Acts 17:17, 18:4, 19:9-10).
    St. Paul’s evangelistic preaching wasn’t simply thrilling oratory and edifying, “homiletic” exposition; it involved in-depth reasoning; even – at times, such as on Mars Hill (Acts 17:22-34) --, literally philosophical discourse.
    Our Lord Jesus, too, often engaged in vigorous, rational, scriptural argument, especially with the Pharisees, much in the spirit of the ancient rabbis. One example of this among many occurs in Mark 12:18-27, where He is said to be “disputing” (Greek, suzeteo) with the Sadducees (cf. Acts 9:29, where the same word is used).
    Rational argument, thinking, or open-minded discourse and dialogue is altogether permissible; indeed, required of all Christians who wish to have a robust, confident, reasonable faith amidst the competing ideas and faiths of the world and academia. Our Lord instructs us to love God with our minds as well as with all our hearts, souls, and strength (Luke 10:27).
    The word apologetics; that is, the defense of Christianity (or Catholicism in particular, in the present instance) is derived etymologically from the Greek apologia, which term was used by Plato as a title of one of his many classic dialogues, in description of the philosopher Socrates’ lengthy and elaborate defense or justification of himself against trumped-up, politically-motivated charges in Athens, in 399 B.C.
    Apologia is also a biblical word, and appears much in the same sense as with Socrates, with regard to St. Paul’s defense of himself during his lengthy trial (Acts 22:1, 25:16). It is also used with reference to Paul’s defense and confirmation of the gospel (Philippians 1:7,16 -- rendered defense in the RSV in all four instances).
    The use of apologia in the imperative verse 1 Peter 3:15, with regard to the explanation of the hope of the gospel which resides in the heart of every Christian believer, makes apologetics a duty of every Christian, to some extent. But of course, people have different God-granted gifts and abilities, and the Christian or Catholic apologist is specifically called to that task as a matter of vocation and life’s work.



    I'll add a new bonus tip as well! Don't challenge a Catholic with, "where does it say..." We're NOT SOLA SCRIPTURA CHRISTIANS. I realize that if we are trying to convince non-Catholic, sola scriptura Christians we are limited to the scriptures themselves, but the reverse is not true for Catholics and Catholic apologists should refuse to be handcuffed that way. The scriptures are not solely authoritative and so we are not bound to only what is in scripture; therefore, being challenged to find it in scripture, i.e. "where does it say" doesn't work for us.


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    Theory holds with #2 and 3

    So after dinner I decided to check out the ex-Catholic monk and the nun.

    It doesn't take a lot to figure out how well catechized someone was. After you get through the gobbledy gook of "I grew up in a Catholic family of umpteen kids and we went to mass every week and I went to catechism and I was abused (physically emotionally and/or sexually) by the (nun, priest, janitor)I start looking for what specific doctrinal points they actually had a problem with.

    The nun was easy. She wrote:
    How many times do we need to be saved? If I receive Jesus Christ at communion time, what happens to Him during the week that I have to go back and receive Him again? And why should I drink blood when blood is forbidden before the Law (Genesis 9:4); Under the law (Lev. 17:14); and in New Testament times (Acts 15:29; 21:25)? The Bible says Blood is off limits, we are to abstain from blood, but in the Catholic church we are to drink it!


    My 8 year old gets the difference between actual blood and the divine Body and Blood of Jesus Christ that we receive in the Holy Eucharist. Readers can check it for themselves at the Catechism of the Catholic Church on this section regarding the Holy Eucharist.


    Brother Vadavan is even more vague about his doctrinal differences. He apparently wrote a book about it, but I couldn't find it online or on Amazon or Google Books.



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    Latest Candy Rant

    I'm not going to rehash some of the stuff in Candy's latest "my hits are dropping I better get something up against the Catholic Church ASAP" rant. Most of our replies about Mary, The Papacy, praying to saints etc. are EASILY accessible in our handy dandy archives. Use the Blogger search function or the Google one in the side bar.

    However, I AM FASCINATED with anti-Catholics and their testimonies, because, as I've mentioned, I've never met a fully catechized Catholic who knew his faith, understood it and left anyway. (With the caveat that those who have left for reasons such as birth control, homosexuality, women priests, abortion - name your social issue, in my experience tend to try to take their Catholicity with them, i.e. Catholics for Choice, or recreating their own "Catholic " church not under the supervision of the local bishop or the Pope.

    So with that in mind I was anxious in fact delighted to look at Dan's testimony to see if he might be the elusive know-it, understood- it, left anyway ex-Catholic I've been looking for. Let's see!

    I was raised in a strict RC family, 2 of my uncles were
    priests, my Dad taught CCD., my Mom was the church secretary, and my 2
    brothers + i were altar boys. But in all my years growing up as a Catholic
    never heard the Gospel of the Grace of GOD (Acts 20:24), which brings a soul
    to realize his desperate need for salvation in the light of a completely Holy and
    perfectly Just GOD, and our utter inability to either merit Eternal Life with
    GOD in His Holy Heaven, nor escape the just punishment due for our sins (and
    sin of rejecting the Light of CHRIST), and thus can only look to the Son
    sent from the Father to be.(1Jn.4:10,14); Who is set forth as the Direct
    object of faith for the helpless and destitute sinner, for the immediate
    forgiveness of sins and regeneration by the Holy Ghost, all on GOD's expense
    and credit.


    A couple of things. My mother was proficient enough at the piano that she seriously considered a career as a concert pianist.

    I did not receive any of her interest or talent in the piano - either genetically or via osmosis!

    Listing the credentials of one's parents is a strawman. And interestingly, on the Protestant side, there are all the stereotypes about "the preacher's kids." So I find the "pedigree" at the beginning to be less than compelling.

    It's clear though that this gentleman wasn't keeping his ears open at mass! Acts 20 IS CLEARLY IN THE LECTIONARY. If he didn't hear it, he wasn't listening.

    Instead, i was in essence taught to believe that i was in good
    hands with the Catholic system. Though i am thankful to the Biblical things that i did learn, which lead to my being born again at age 25 by faith in the Gospel of Grace, Romanism effectively made such truth of none effect by promoting faith more in herself and personal merit than directly in Christ and His precious blood.


    Wasn't listening in religion class either. From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

    2008 The merit of man before God in the Christian life arises from the fact that God has freely chosen to associate man with the work of his grace. The fatherly action of God is first on his own initiative, and then follows man's free acting through his collaboration, so that the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful. Man's merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit.

    2025 We can have merit in God's sight only because of God's free plan to associate man with the work of his grace. Merit is to be ascribed in the first place to the grace of God, and secondly to man's collaboration. Man's merit is due to God.

    1432 The human heart is heavy and hardened. God must give man a new heart. Conversion is first of all a work of the grace of God who makes our hearts return to him: "Restore us to thyself, O LORD, that we may be restored!" God gives us the strength to begin anew. It is in discovering the greatness of God's love that our heart is shaken by the horror and weight of sin and begins to fear offending God by sin and being separated from him. The human heart is converted by looking upon him whom our sins have pierced:

    Let us fix our eyes on Christ's blood and understand how precious it is to his Father, for, poured out for our salvation it has brought to the whole world the grace of repentance.





    The indifferent or even antagonistic response to the evangelical Gospel is an effect that made me search for a cause. I have also tried to reason with Catholic street evangelists


    Translation: When Dan tried out his apologetic chops on catechized Catholics who knew their stuff - he was blown out of the water.

    I belive (sic) that the evident scriptural illiteracy and general spiritual deadness (in the light of the NT) has its foundation in Roman Catholisim's completely unwaranted and autocratic interpretation of Mt 16:13-19, by which they postulate an ultimately infallible Pope Peter and Church, to whom all must submit, and whose position and power and is to be perpetuated via Papal Progression and eccleciastical linkage.


    Covered. See here and here.

    Though a doctrine so critical to the eternal welfare
    of souls (such as the death and resurrection of CHRIST, or the great commission)
    must have fairly abundant Biblical support, in vain do we search the scripture to
    find at least one command by the Holy Spirit to the church to submit to Peter
    as its universal Head, or one clear instance wherein the church did so
    (especially as Rome manifests it), or in which Peter claims such an office
    for himself (rather than being "an apostle," and "an elder:" 1Pt.1:1;
    2Pt.1:1). A careful examination of the entire body of the NT. (esp. in the
    "church epistles" in which such a doctrine would be most expected to be
    found), invalidates Romaism's papal premise. Nonetheless, Rome's circular
    reasoning (according our interpretation, only our interpretation can be
    correct) allows her to rather blithely dismiss scriptural reproofs to her
    arrogance, the result being the propagation of a plethora of pronouncements
    that either have no Biblical warrant or contradict what the Bible clearly,
    and contextually, declares.


    Note there is nothing in the bible that supports Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide, yet our uncatechized friend subscribed to those rather easily.

    The rest of it is Dan going on about how much he loves all of us in the institutional gospel churches but I don't think he can persuade or compel anyone to the "rightness" of his position from this piece.

    My theory stands.




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    Savior versus Saviour

    Not that it matters to me how Savior is spelled, but I see Candy is selectively utilizing online dictionaries again.

    Candy writes:
    Savior - noun
    1. a person who saves, rescues, or delivers: the savior of the country.
    - dictionary.com

    Saviour - noun
    1. a teacher and prophet born in Bethlehem and active in Nazareth; his life and sermons form the basis for Christianity (circa 4 BC - AD 29)
    - WordNet dictionary

    From the WordNet dictionary:
    Savior - noun
    1. a teacher and prophet born in Bethlehem and active in Nazareth; his life and sermons form the basis for Christianity (circa 4 BC - AD 29)
    - WordNet dictionary
    They list that meaning first, regardless of the spelling.

    The dictionary.com listing, American Heritage, and Merriam-Webster all had this meaning listed second, rather than first, as the WordNet dictionary did.




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    Want to know what Candy is talking about?

    Candy goes on quite a bit about "corrupted" and "uncorrupted" texts. Wonder what she's talking about? I covered that last summer at My Domestic Church: Chapter 6 Understandable History of the Bible.


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    Bible Catholics

    We hear over and over again, the accusation that Catholic don't read their Bible. Sometimes, this is tempered with "Well, that's changing a bit, but back in the old days, they didn't encourage Bible reading." Before Vatican II, it was all Latin Mass and novenas to Mary, right?

    This past Christmas, my great-Aunt Anna Rose passed away. She and another sister had never married, and had cared for their parents in their old age. Aunt Anna Rose was the last to die, and now the contents of the house are being sorted through and cleared out. As I'm the only practicing Catholic left in the family, the end result is that boxes of braided palms, prayer cards, and other religious items are ending up at my house.

    On Sunday, I unearthed a treasure.

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    The Bible of my Great-Grandfather, who died well before I was born, in 1962, at the age of 88 years. This is a genuine Douay-Rheims Version. When I opened it, I discovered that like Candy, my Great-Grandfather believed in marking his Bible.

    On the inside of the front cover, was the following note:

    To, my loved ones. And all. It is my sincerest belief that this book will lead those who Read it to heaven if they obey - or - to hell if they read and disobey. suggest 2 Cor. 15.17

    With love always, Daddy.

    But wait, there's more! If you thought Candy didn't sugar coat, just see what he wrote to my aunt and uncle, who both married (gasp) protestants:

    To Jr. and M.C., I recommend reading over and over again 2 - Cor, 11.

    In case they had any doubt about which part of the entire chapter was most important, he bracketed the following verses: For they are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself disguises himself as an angel of light. It is no great thing, then, if his ministers disguise themselves as ministers of justice. But their end will be according to their works.

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    Actually, he has verse notations jotted down all over the white spaces on the front and back pages. As I turned the pages of the text, nearly every page contained some marking or notation. Candy is always reminding us to read the Bible straight through. On the page between the Old and New Testaments, my Great-Grandfather made a notation that on September 5, he finished his third reading of the Old Testament.

    My Great-Grandfather struggled with crippling depression for much of his life. He had to give the care of the family farm over to his son, because he was not able to work any more. I've been told that he spent three years, sitting in a chair, looking off into the distance. I was reminded of this when I ran across a note which said simply "Psalm 30, my plea." It is easy to see how he might have identified with it:

    1 Unto the end, a psalm for David, in an ecstasy. 2 In thee, O Lord, have I hoped, let me never be confounded: deliver me in thy justice. 3 Bow down thy ear to me: make haste to deliver me. Be thou unto me a God, a protector, and a house of refuge, to save me. 4 For thou art my strength and my refuge; and for thy name's sake thou wilt lead me, and nourish me. 5 Thou wilt bring me out of this snare, which they have hidden for me: for thou art my protector.

    6 Into thy hands I commend my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O Lord, the God of truth. 7 Thou hast hated them that regard vanities, to no purpose. But I have hoped in the Lord: 8 I will be glad and rejoice in thy mercy. For thou best regarded my humility, thou hast saved my soul out of distresses. 9 And thou hast not shut me up in the hands of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a spacious place. 10 Have mercy on me, O Lord, for I am afflicted: my eye is troubled with wrath, my soul, and my belly:

    11 For my life is wasted with grief: and my years in sighs. My strength is weakened through poverty and my bones are disturbed. 12 I am become a reproach among all my enemies, and very much to my neighbours; and a fear to my acquaintance. They that saw me without fled from me. 13 I am forgotten as one dead from the heart. I am become as a vessel that is destroyed. 14 For I have heard the blame of many that dwell round about. While they assembled together against me, they consulted to take away my life. 15 But I have put my trust in thee, O Lord: I said: Thou art my God.

    16 My lots are in thy hands. Deliver me out of the hands of my enemies; and from them that persecute me. 17 Make thy face to shine upon thy servant; save me in thy mercy. 18 Let me not be confounded, O Lord, for I have called upon thee. Let the wicked be ashamed, and be brought down to hell. 19 Let deceitful lips be made dumb. Which speak iniquity against the just, with pride and abuse. 20 O how great is the multitude of thy sweetness, O Lord, which thou hast hidden for them that fear thee! Which thou hast wrought for them that hope in thee, in the sight of the sons of men.

    21 Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy face, from the disturbance of men. Thou shalt protect them in thy tabernacle from the contradiction of tongues. 22 Blessed be the Lord, for he hath shown his wonderful mercy to me in a fortified city. 23 But I said in the excess of my mind: I am cast away from before thy eyes. Therefore thou hast heard the voice of my prayer, when I cried to thee. 24 O love the Lord, all ye his saints: for the Lord will require truth, and will repay them abundantly that act proudly. 25 Do ye manfully, and let your heart be strengthened, all ye that hope in the Lord.

    I'm so glad that he was able to find consolation in Scripture!

    My Great-Grandfather died of cancer, and was bedridden for the last two years of his life. During this time, he handmade over 3000 rosaries for missionaries to distribute. He was in a lot of pain, and I found this note at the back of the Bible:

    To my wife, and each of my children, When your health begins to fail, when things no longer respond to your will, I suggest St. Matt. 11, 28-30 as a good place for hope. -Daddy

    The verses read: Come to me, all you that labour, and are burdened, and I will refresh you. Take up my yoke upon you, and learn of me, because I am meek, and humble of heart: and you shall find rest to your souls. For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.

    The final note reads:

    To All My Family: Read and ponder again and again, St. Mark Chap.4, 1-40; all the while asking the Holy Spirit to give you understanding, as He has giving understanding to men throughout the ages. Daddy.
    So now we have physical proof, that at least one pre-Vatican II Catholic knew his Bible!

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    The uncatechized.

    This is an interesting article. Readers might remember my own personal theory that uncatechized generally do not leave the Catholic church (see my previous post for the caveats). This article called
    The Bible Made Me Do It, by Tom Barbarie gives the stories of several ex-Catholics and how they left the church.

    Interestingly, their Catholic education and family life all add anecdotal evidence to my working theory.





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    Tuesday, April 22, 2008

    The Anti-Catholic Bible

    The Anti-Catholic Bible
    A fascinating article on the origins of the modern anti-Catholic movement.

    Some excerpts:

    Since the late 1970s several new anti-Catholic organizations have been founded, and some older ones have been revitalized. A partial lineup includes Chick Publications, Mission to Catholics International, Lumen Productions, Research and Education Foundation, Osterhus Publishing House, Christians United for Reformation (CURE), Harvest House, and Bob Jones University Press. Combined they turn out more anti-Catholic tracts, magazines, and books than ever before—millions of copies each year.

    When one reads enough of this material, one becomes aware that the same points tend to be made by different writers in the same way, even in the same words. Who is borrowing from whom? It doesn’t seem that any of these groups relies very heavily on any other. Instead, they all fall back on one source, Loraine Boettner’s work, Roman Catholicism, a book first published in 1962 by Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company of Philadelphia and reprinted many times since.

    This book is the origin of much of what professional anti-Catholics distribute. It can be called, to use a phrase that might rankle some, the "Bible" of the anti-Catholic movement.

    At first glance Roman Catholicism seems impressive. Its 460 large pages of text are closely packed with quotations. The table of contents is broken down into dozens of categories, and the indices, though skimpy, at least are there. But a careful reading makes it clear that the author’s antagonism to the Catholic Church has gravely compromised his intellectual objectivity.



    The book suffers from a serious lack of scholarly rigor. Boettner accepts at face value virtually any claim made by an opponent of the Church. Even when verification of a charge is easy, he does not bother to check it out. If he finds something unflattering to Catholicism, he prints it.



    Hmmm? Remind you of anyone?

    Many Protestants—whether or not they realize how inaccurate and unscholarly Boettner’s work is—look to Roman Catholicism for their arguments against the Catholic Church. Catholics should prepare themselves for discussions with Protestants by studying Scripture and Church history and by reading solid books on apologetics. That way they will be prepared to heed Peter’s exhortation: "Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence" (1 Pet. 3:15).




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    The Ray Family Conversion Story

    The Ray Family: "For Steve Ray, there was an answer to the question: 'Did the Church come before the Bible or did the Bible come before the Church?'

    'We had always assumed that the Bible gave birth to the Church but realized, after some research, that was really a fallacy,' Steve Ray said. 'The Church was there. Jesus did not leave us with an authoritative Book, He left us with an authoritative Church and later, through time, that Church gave us an authoritative Book, but the Church came first.'

    Steve Ray said they questioned the thinking of the early Church fathers, assuming they were Protestant in their theology and that 'the Catholics corrupted it all later on as the centuries went awry.'

    To their amazement, they found that 'the early Church believed absolutely in the real presence of Christ in regeneration and baptism,' Steve Ray said. 'They believed in apostolic succession. They believed in the primacy of Rome. All these things that are essentially Catholic were already well established in the first, second and third centuries, and it kicked the foundation right out from under us.'

    New Year's Eve 1993 was the turning point. The Rays spent the evening with friends with whom they ended up in theological discussions.

    The couple spent the first day of 1994 reading and listening to tapes of conversion stories. By the end of that day, Steve Ray said, "I looked at Janet and I had tears in my eyes and I said, 'I'm Catholic."'




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    Lord’s beggar – 90-yr.-old Catholic will serve poor until ‘God calls me’ - Catholic Online

    Lord’s beggar – 90-yr.-old Catholic will serve poor until ‘God calls me’ - Catholic Online: "INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. (The Criterion) – At 90, Lucious Newsom hitches up his blue bib overalls and climbs into his white van, preparing to continue his work as “the Lord’s beggar for the poor” – a role he has served for 18 years in Indianapolis.

    ‘LORD’S BEGGAR’ DISTRIBUTES FOOD – Lucious Newsom, in the blue bib overalls recognizable to those he serves, talks with two women who come to get food that he begged for and collected from an Indianapolis, Ind., company. The 90-year-old “Lord’s beggar for the poor” has been working for 18 years to provide aid to the poor. (The Criterion)
    ‘LORD’S BEGGAR’ DISTRIBUTES FOOD – Lucious Newsom, in the blue bib overalls recognizable to those he serves, talks with two women who come to get food that he begged for and collected from an Indianapolis, Ind., company. The 90-year-old “Lord’s beggar for the poor” has been working for 18 years to provide aid to the poor. (The Criterion)

    Pulling the van away from the curb, the retired Baptist minister-turned-Catholic waves goodbye to some of the 89 Hispanic families who have just spent the last 30 minutes filling their laundry baskets and milk crates with free tomatoes,"



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    Faith Groups Call on Time Warner to Fire Bill Maher Over 'Gratuitous' Remarks | Christianpost.com

    Faith Groups Call on Time Warner to Fire Bill Maher Over 'Gratuitous' Remarks | Christianpost.com: "Some groups, such as the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, are putting pressure on Time Warner, the parent company of HBO, to now fire Maher, much like NBC did with the shock jock Don Imus over racist remarks.

    'We are writing to the 14 members who sit on the board of directors of Time Warner,” expressed Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, “asking each of them whether Maher's gratuitous and highly offensive attack on Jesus Christ merits the same punishment afforded Imus for his racist remark.”

    In Maher’s recent commentary on religion, the talk show host first began by making negative references to Falwell and to his strong Christian activism within American politics over his lifetime.

    “Death isn’t always sad,” he said, smirking. “This week the Rev. Jerry Falwell died and millions of Americans asked ‘Why?’ ‘Why God? Why didn’t You take Pat Robertson with him?’

    “Now,” he added later, “I know that you’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead but I think we can make an exception because speaking ill of the dead was kind of Jerry Falwell’s hobby.”





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    Sunday, April 20, 2008

    Some of our favorite topics rolled into one!

    This is a fascinating article to me because it touches on three of our favorite Visits to Candyland topics... anti-Catholic Evangelicals, The Whore of Babylon and nuns!

    Below are excerpts from a discussion between Catholic Deal Hudson and Rev. John Hagee. John Hagee was recently scourged in the media for his anti-Catholic remarks after he endorsed presidential hopeful, John McCain.

    Anyway, read the entire article. It's very surprising.





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      • I told him that when I Googled "Great Whore" and Revelation, the first six hits were explicitly anti-Catholic Web sites. He then explained why, in his interpretation of the Book of Revelation, the "Great Whore" cannot refer to the Catholic Church: In Hagee's eschatology, the end times begin with the Rapture, when all those who are truly in Christ will be taken up to heaven. Hagee says, "Since both Catholics and Protestants are taken up to Heaven, how could the 'Great Whore' be the Catholic Church? The apostate church is left on earth during the seven years of tribulation -- that is the 'Great Whore.'"




      • I asked him, "Are you saying the Catholic Church cannot be the 'Great Whore' because the 'Great Whore' exists only during the period of tribulation?" Hagee answered, "Yes, anyone who is a real Christian, Catholic or Protestant, has been taken to heaven, only those without faith, including Catholics and Protestants, are left behind."



        Hagee teaches that the tribulation is followed by the 1,000-year rule of Christ, who brings perfect peace. After 1,000 years, eternity begins and time is no more. All of this Hagee diagramed for me, at my request, on two small sheets of notebook paper.



      • He told me several personal stories, as well, about his relationship with Catholics over the years. This one, in particular, provides a starting point for seeing another side of the man who has now become a symbol of anti-Catholicism:



        The Ursuline Sisters founded the Ursuline Academy in San Antonio in 1851 -- it was the first girls' school in the city, originally located on the San Antonio River before moving to the northwest part of the city in 1965. By the early 1990s there were too few sisters, and those too old to run the Academy. The eight remaining sisters ranged in age from 63 to 94.



        Consequently, they put their 40 acres of prime real estate and 90,000 square feet of buildings up for sale. The sisters tried to make a deal with the archdiocese, but it fell through several times. Having heard that Hagee was looking for property to build a school, the sisters called him. Hagee went to see the school and was met by a sister who had come from the Vatican to oversee the sale. "It was in perfect condition, there wasn't a hairline crack," he told me.



      • "I was shocked when I was told the price and asked why it was so low." Hagee was then told that the delay in selling the property had meant the sisters had to draw on their retirement accounts to live. Hagee then said, "I want to buy this school by the close of business tomorrow."



        Hagee, the sisters, and their attorneys met the next morning. The Ursulines' attorney said, "Shall we tell Reverend Hagee the real problem?" At that point Hagee thought the whole deal would go down the drain because of some monstrous problem he hadn't been informed of.



        The attorney for the sisters explained that the archdiocese had expected them to move out of the convent immediately after it was sold and asked what Hagee wanted the sisters to do.



        "My plan would be to give them a five year lease to the convent, and I will charge them ten dollars a year. We will pay all utilities and up-keep." Hagee then took a 50-dollar bill from his pocket and paid the lease himself. One sister looked at the attorney and said, "Let's get this thing done."




      • The following Sunday, Hagee sent his church bus to the Ursuline convent, picked up the sisters, brought them to his church, and seated them in the front row for both services (5,000 attend each service). "I thanked them publicly for their lives of sacrifice and devotion to Jesus Christ. The congregation gave them standing ovations because the campus we bought was the fruit of their labor, a testimonial of their commitment to Christ."



        The Ursuline sisters stayed in the convent for twelve years, free of any cost. "We were glad to bear the cost to express our appreciation for what they had done for the Kingdom of God." During that time, those sisters who were able walked around the campus and through the halls of Cornerstone Christian School.



        "Our children hugged them; they would reach out and grab them by the hands. They were very precious to us for what they had done with their whole lives which had been invested in building this wonderful school. We were glad to honor them as long as they walked on this earth."






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    Saturday, April 19, 2008

    OK except for this...

    While I disagree with the late Coffeybean blog's assertion that MOST Protestants share Candy's (wwww.keepingthehome.com) view of Catholicism, there is a group that mostly does - secular liberals! Bill Maher being one of the most up front and in-your-face types when it comes to spewing crap about the Catholic Church. See the Catholic League's response to Maher's statements below:
    Catholic League: For Religious and Civil Rights

    Bill Maher and Candy - strange bedfellows no?





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    Friday, April 18, 2008

    THE CATHOLIC TREASURE CHEST

    THE CATHOLIC TREASURE CHEST

    I came across this earlier this week... this was new to me and I love it!!

    I find this site to be a great source for learning about how to defend the Catholic faith.
    It is a great source for a beginner apologetic like myself and offers many links.
    I hope you'll check it out!




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